Date: 27 Oct 2022 16:36 (UTC)
souille: (Default)
From: [personal profile] souille
you were going to ask if you could help, right?

Date: 31 Oct 2022 23:31 (UTC)
souille: (Default)
From: [personal profile] souille
are you okay? is there like a computer bug or something so you can't reply properly?

i'd appreciate any help, but tbh i don't know what anyone could do short of finding a way back to ryslig.

Date: 23 Nov 2022 19:50 (UTC)
souille: (Default)
From: [personal profile] souille
to be honest

[ Something she'll admit she's not the best at.

The lord is testing her

Date: 2 Nov 2022 23:17 (UTC)
notyourmessiah: (angy)
From: [personal profile] notyourmessiah
[Electrobolt crackles across her fingers again, brighter this time. She clenches her fist tighter, the knuckles white with the effort. She didn't disagree with Ryan. Her mother was a cult leader, and full of herself. But Andrew fucking Ryan wasn't gonna be the one to tell her that.]

Oh you think so?

[She is trying very hard to keep her voice even.]

Well. That actually reminds me of someone. A man who built a city to avoid the censor and the police state and then immediately became those things when he received any criticism or competition. So full of his own ego that he couldn't see the city he built crumbling around him. So hated that when he was killed by his own son, the crumbling city celebrated. Andrew Ryan was his name.

<sanctumreverentia>

Date: 29 Oct 2022 20:01 (UTC)
gildedsaint: (tired)
From: [personal profile] gildedsaint
no, i would agree with you. it's a choice made specifically because of my prior experiences. i am quite used to trading personal freedoms for power and relative safety from a god.

in my world, we are all in debt to a man who calls himself God. he truly does have extensive power, moreso than any of us even with our magic. he gave us that magic, he resurrected billions of lives, he pulled our species from the brink of extinction. but he also is still a man with flaws and follies. most will never know this, as he's quite reclusive for reasons good and bad, but my past nine months were spent in his personal ship learning advanced necromancy straight from the lips of its inventor.

and while i appreciate your clarification, i am also quite used to being judged. other people's opinions do not affect me; i spend far too much time making careful choices to let anyone else's sway me.

npnp!!

Date: 4 Nov 2022 06:41 (UTC)
gildedsaint: (wink)
From: [personal profile] gildedsaint
for your edification, necromancy is both magic and science and involves controlling and making use of the energies of life and death. it is a core component of our culture, and necromancers enjoy a higher social standing than others due to their gifts, with the understanding that they make themselves useful to their Houses. it takes both natural talent and years of study to hone the skill, however.

i was a princess of my House and the greatest necromancer we've produced. i could lay claim to greatest of my generation, with perhaps only two other heirs to reach my heights, and one is quite dead.

to answer your question, yes, certainly by that point it was entirely for myself. perhaps some answered his call with altruistic intentions, but i've been working towards my own ends since i was quite small.

Date: 15 Nov 2022 05:03 (UTC)
gildedsaint: (tired)
From: [personal profile] gildedsaint
[condescending, but not inaccurate.]

certainly no one else is going to work on my behalf.

[she's had no one but herself to rely on her whole life.]

that is an interestingly religious-adjacent name for your scientific discovery.
ours were called thanergy (death) and thalergy (life).

am i correct in guessing you are also from earth and a four-digit year? it seems to be the most likely so far, in whom i've asked.

Date: 1 Dec 2022 01:03 (UTC)
gildedsaint: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gildedsaint
Cheers to that.

[strange for someone who personally knew God to say they also abhor organized religion, probably. or maybe not. knowing him means knowing how much he objectively sucks and how wrong everybody is.]

it does not, as i am from a five-digit year and a colony in space. :)
but i appreciate the data nevertheless. it's very interesting how concentrated your general timespan seems to be here.

Date: 5 Dec 2022 01:44 (UTC)
gildedsaint: (askance)
From: [personal profile] gildedsaint
my current theory is there is something about that time period that makes the veil between worlds easier to pierce. far-flung outliers exist, like myself, or those from worlds entirely different than ours. but they seem to be significantly less common, and that leads me to believe there is something inherent to that time-and-place that make it a simpler task to sift through.

my preferred area of necromantic study was Resurrection theory and flesh-shaping, rather than spirit magic, so i am unfortunately not an expert. but one of my tutors was the very best in that field, and much of my training of late involved learning to traverse the other realm. obviously not everything will work the same way, it's quite evident the magics here are of an entirely different sort than my home. but nevertheless, the similarities intrigue.

Date: 5 Dec 2022 05:18 (UTC)
gildedsaint: (wink)
From: [personal profile] gildedsaint
well, i've an academic background. it's what i'm predisposed to. not to mention, i've never been one to simply complain idly, i like to actually solve problems, and that can't be done if you don't even know what they are or how they work. i can always appreciate meeting someone who simply accepts when they're out of their depth and what facts are laid out for them, rather than stubborn ones who insist on being loudly wrong.

i've read fictional stories of vampires before, but they were not a real phenomenon in my world. undead creatures certainly existed, but were largely byproducts of necromancy, for obvious reasons. most of us made use of skeletal constructs for general physical labor, especially in places that would be hazardous for a human being to be. however, they did not have any sort of sentience or free will - they were merely organic machines. we would program them for specific tasks and routines and do maintenance as they deteriorated over time.

ghosts are the lost spirit remains of those who died and did not find their way into the afterlife and thus the River. often byproducts of violent, unexpected death. could sometimes be tempted back to converse with the living, if appropriate offerings were made, but their cooperation was always short-lived.

revenants are the collective term for a ghost that has become deranged and feral, often as a result of possessing something and sticking around much longer than they ought to. just like a body without a soul cannot have true life or sentience, a soul without a body cannot maintain its sense of self and reason for very long. even revenants who haunt their own corpses generally can't maintain their sanity for any significant length of time, and become violent and aggressive.

my most recent training involved the culling of planetary ghosts and revenants, actually.

Date: 11 Dec 2022 05:29 (UTC)
gildedsaint: (bloodstained)
From: [personal profile] gildedsaint
oh, no, far from it. truthfully, there were only three revenants remaining of nine originally, but existing for ten thousand years made them obscenely powerful and dangerous. even looking directly upon them could drive you mad. that is the reason we were invited to become Lyctors - Saints, Hands of God, et cetera. all titles meaning the same thing; that we would achieve immortality and utter mastery of our magic beyond our wildest dreams, in exchange for dedicating our eternal lives to God's service, and fighting and ideally slaying these beasts.

their existence was a closely guarded secret, however. we were not informed of the second half of the deal until after the contract was made, nor of the fact that said beasts are inevitably drawn to Lyctors like moths to a flame.


[one of many, many reasons Ianthe thinks God is a motherfucker.]

a large part of our training involved the killing of planets, so as to produce a ghost to hunt in the spirit realm, while our mentors observed.

however, i am, as mentioned, an extreme outlier. my experience is almost wholly unique even among my culture; i had one single other student alongside me in Lyctor training. if you're wondering about the infinitely more common reasons for studying necromancy, it would be for the war effort. our mundane human enemies vastly outnumber the spectral planetary ones.

your repairmen, i assume, were mechanical? it seems metal automation is much more common in other non-magical cultures. was Rapture your kingdom?

Date: 11 Dec 2022 06:30 (UTC)
gildedsaint: (askance)
From: [personal profile] gildedsaint
[oh, that is much more grim than she'd expected, goofy nickname aside. her empire at least had a veneer of respectability and care over the horror below. they had child soldiers, but voluntary ones, raised on propaganda. people weren't forced into being servitors, just their empty husks. but she's not about to get judgemental; no sense making him defensive when she can get far more information from him otherwise.]

i see.
i suppose that is some interpretation of community service, and fulfills the goals both of needing a labor force and of preventing further crimes. engineering an underwater city with the science of your time is quite a feat. i will say also, your concerns were very likely correct; our God claims part of the Earth's demise was nuclear war, which is what necessitated our relocation to the other planets in our system.

as a royal and saint myself, i don't blame you for your feelings on those matters. bloodlines are only important where i am from because necromantic talent has a genetic component. otherwise the concept is quite useless. some of the most brilliant minds or talented hands i've met have come from commoner stock.

the problem is that God is also a man, with all the flaws and folly that entails. one who's lived for ten thousand years and has greater magical aptitude than any of us could ever hope to reach, but nevertheless. as such, i do not worship; it's more a political alliance. i wanted the power and prestige, and i have been given it. i don't appreciate being maneuvered into an extremely deadly game, but i can't say it's a surprise. my own private goals are much more likely to come true if i remain his ally - and his enemies, he's been chasing for those ten thousand years. i would rather not earn his ire until i've subsumed his power for myself.


[ultimate goal: vore god]

Date: 23 Dec 2022 04:30 (UTC)
gildedsaint: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gildedsaint
[hysterical that his so-called paradise experienced a civil war. who could have forseen that happening. surely not him. thankfully ianthe knows to leave that well enough alone. powerful narcissistic men rarely appreciate having the obvious flaws in their reasoning pointed out to them.]

you're correct, but i appreciate your appraisal nevertheless.

fascinating. genetically keyed locks are one component of what we call blood wards. though they often do more than simply prevent entry, they can also cause horrible pain and death for trespassers if you're talented enough at the art.

full resurrection with mind, body and soul all intact was out of our grasp, unfortunately. that is one of god's exclusive abilities that i would very much like to learn, alongside perfect immortality and the creation of life. we can call souls back from the River. we can attach them to things, or even their own corpse, or carry them in our own bodies for a time. but we cannot fuse them perfectly to their old shells enough to undo the severing that occurs at the moment of death.

i would wonder if perhaps your machines were simply churning out copies with similarly memories, somehow, but we could not produce true life in this way either. your science outpaced ours in this respect, or perhaps souls work differently there.

<sanctumreverentia>

Date: 4 Jan 2023 21:33 (UTC)
gildedsaint: (sidelong)
From: [personal profile] gildedsaint
unfortunately, pride often accompanies genius, along with how it goeth before a fall.

i can only assume one of them killed him, which is a frankly very expected result when your area of study is unstable monsters.


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